Positive visualization and Reiki healing

topic posted Mon, February 2, 2009 - 10:24 PM by  Tanemon
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On and off in my Reiki practice I've wondered what the role of positive visualization might be, for the recipient of Reiki healing sessions. I guess I could put the question this way: Have you noticed any pattern in the apparent effectiveness (over days or weeks) of a Reiki session or series of sessions with clients/patients who seem to have had a positive visualization of their health, versus ones who did not seem to have positive visualization?

When I say "visualization" I mean a fairly definite mental image of good health, be this emotional or physical health.

I'll be interested to hear people's reflections on this, in relation to either their own (i.e., self-healing) experience, or that of their clients.
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Tanemon
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  • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

    Mon, February 2, 2009 - 10:56 PM
    I think it's pretty well documented
    that those expecting to get better,
    generally do.
    • Just let go and let the body do the work...

      Tue, February 3, 2009 - 5:35 AM
      Hmm.. I think I can make an equal assertion that my clients who have just let go and had no expectation during a treatment session have reported the most profound healing experiences afterward.

      I suspect that one of the biggest benefits of receiving a treatment is that we experience such deep relaxation. Research has shown time and again that stress is the immune system's No. 1 enemy. To the extent that we can get stress out of the way, the human immune response is capable of miracles of healing.
      • Re: Just let go and let the body do the work...

        Tue, February 3, 2009 - 9:11 AM
        Yes, I agree.

        I think that if Reiki is so good,
        which it is, it doesn't really need
        add-ons.

        You either come in with positive expectancy,.
        or you come in open to possibility, either way
        possibility engulfs you! Then afterward it up
        to the patient to maintain that.
      • Re: Just let go and let the body do the work...

        Tue, February 3, 2009 - 12:37 PM
        Trishi wrote: "I think I can make an equal assertion that my clients who have just let go and had no expectation during a treatment session have reported the most profound healing experiences afterward. "

        Yes, I agree about during the Reiki treatment session. Actually, I was thinking more about positive visualization during everyday life... which might well include coming to the Reiki session room with that positive image in mind.

        During the session... absolutely - letting go, just "being" and letting the energy & the session go where they will is best.

        It's just that some people, in their life in general (and maybe particularly when they've been "under the weather" physically) practice no sort of imaging... and some do. So this is what my question referred to.
        • Re: Just let go and let the body do the work...

          Tue, February 3, 2009 - 12:48 PM
          > "It's just that some people, in their life in general (and maybe particularly
          when they've been "under the weather" physically) practice no sort of imaging..."

          I'm not sure this is possible. Folks are typically imaging unconsciously, that's
          how we generate the lives we do. That said, it's not necessarily visual imagery
          as we know from NLP. But there's almost always a backlog of consciousness
          (for better or worse) that brings people into our treatment rooms.

          I think we do a disservice if we don't mention "mental hygiene" to our clients.
          • mental hygiene or mental hijinks?

            Tue, February 3, 2009 - 6:35 PM
            I guess I really haven't followed up with clients about how they use expectancy and visualization to support treatments. I think I *can* say that better than half my clients have been predisposed to believe in the power of the mind to condition the reality we experience. This is a very unscientific sampling, however! ;-)

            I've also encountered clients who wish to absolve themselves of any responsibility for their own health. I'm sure we all have.

            So to give this conversation a slightly different spin, perhaps we could talk about the effectiveness of visualization vs. feeling-ization - getting or recalling the feelings of good health and well-being.

            And if we use visualization because we are in denial of a core negative belief, which wins? The visualization? Or the core belief?
            • Re: mental hygiene or mental hijinks?

              Wed, February 4, 2009 - 7:59 AM
              Trishi wrote: "So to give this conversation a slightly different spin, perhaps we could talk about the effectiveness of visualization vs. feeling-ization - getting or recalling the feelings of good health and well-being."

              Yes that's fine. When I posted the original question, I actually didn't mean it to imply something 'visual' only (image only). I regard recalling the 'feeling' of health as equivalent.

              "And if we use visualization because we are in denial of a core negative belief, which wins? The visualization? Or the core belief?"

              In my own personal experience, the use of visualization (or 'feeling-ization') may in itself simply 'put a brave face' (or a mask) over a core condition that isn't healthy and integrated. It can sometimes enable a person to forge on, in his/her life, but may well not cause him/her to integrate, grow, or really feel good.

              Even though I do feel this way about 'positive thinking' and positive visualization (etc) in itself, I still wonder if it may be one ingredient of what it takes to have Reiki treatment work its best wonders for a person.
              • Re: mental hygiene or mental hijinks?

                Wed, February 4, 2009 - 8:18 AM
                Makes me laugh, but I'll digress a bit from my original question. (I confess I often feel a bit irritated when threads veer off and leave the original intent in the dust! LOL)

                Trishi, how do YOU approach facilitating the healing of core issues in people? Are you referring to using SHK symbol? Or talking with the client while doing the session? or some particular use of your intent? Or...?
                • Re: mental hygiene or mental hijinks?

                  Thu, February 5, 2009 - 6:56 PM
                  Hopefully we won't veer off too terribly badly!

                  What I've learned from my Japanese Reiki teachers is to suggest a single intention for a treatment: That the client be willing to receive whatever is needed. I set the same intention for myself as the "facilitator".

                  Very powerful - since what we need can vary wildly from what we (think we) want!

                  And that's really it. For physical healing, the client's body-mind has ultimate say over what happens with the Reiki "infusion" that they receive. And the conscious mind of the client may have no clue why they are really having pain or depression. Being willing to take the needed "medicine" is the greater portion of the healing process.

                  As for healing core issues... who am I to say that the "core issue" in question is bad? Perhaps it is just what my client needs at this moment in life.

                  But if asked by a client, I usually encourage them to explore what they really believe to be true about their health, and what they really believe to be possible in terms of healing. Our disbelief in spontaneous healing is as powerful as our belief in miracles, but is better at hiding in plain sight. If we can expose what we really, really believe, then we have a shot at setting it aside and observing what actually *is* possible from a neutral perspective.

                  It's like "willing suspension of disbelief" in theater - the audience is regularly asked to let go of what they know in order to become absorbed in the world of the story.

                  Healing is not so different. Our beliefs can help us, or hinder us. But first we have to know what it really is that we believe, and then suspend that if necessary.
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                    Fri, February 6, 2009 - 9:39 AM
                    Trishi wrote: "What I've learned from my Japanese Reiki teachers is to suggest a single intention for a treatment: That the client be willing to receive whatever is needed. I set the same intention for myself as the "facilitator"."

                    Are you saying that there is one, and one only, intent that both client and Reiki-ist adopt in every session: to be open to the max for non-specific 'reception'?

                    I was trying to discern your precise meaning in your wording (apologies if I'n being dense).

                    Here's why I ask about this. Among clients, I believe I could understand or sense quite a number of specific motivations for seeing any given session, but I believe I can say broadly speaking that they tend to fall into one of two large categories:

                    A. The motivation of people who just like a Reiki session from time to time because it makes them feel good, or has become part of their health & wellbeing routine, provides a non-specific boost, possibly is remembered as being an important part of something that lifted them out of a huge life slump at some point, etc.

                    B. The motivation of persons who maybe generally are in pretty good psychological and physical health, but have a very specific issue: "I get this pain in my thigh," or "I want to see what Reiki can do to reverse the onset of glaucoma," or "for some reason I've never been able to figure out (and neither has any counsellor I've been to) I get horriby depressed around the first of February every year"

                    Do you not feel this will influence (even in an unconscious and underlying way) the "intent" of the client?

                    What about Mrs Takata when she chose to seek Reiki treatment instead of surgery, in Japan back in the 1930s or whenever that was?
                    • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                      Fri, February 6, 2009 - 10:03 AM
                      >"What about Mrs Takata when she chose to seek Reiki treatment instead of surgery,
                      in Japan back in the 1930s or whenever that was?"

                      What about it? Invasive procedures are often avoidable. Especially in those days, any
                      surgery was a major ordeal. I think the best point of the story is that she took it upon herself
                      to question the experts and consider alternatives. That's quite significant when you consider
                      that she saw herself as a "country bumkin from Kauai."
                      • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                        Fri, February 6, 2009 - 12:46 PM
                        Mark wrote: "What about it?"

                        I was citing the situation with Mrs. Takata because she had a very specific need, hence a very spefific motivation.

                        So even if she 'just let go' during the sessions that she had at the Hayashi clinic, she had that need and the strong desire for cure (or "healing," if you wish).
                        • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                          Sun, February 8, 2009 - 11:47 AM
                          And to bring this back around to the effect of visualization on healing... somewhere in here there is a balance to be had. Seeing the end result of *what* you want without needing to know the details of *how* it will happen. Positive *expectancy* without specific *expectation*. Always willing to accept that another solution may be in your highest good in the long term.

                          Back on track, now. I hope!
                        • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                          Fri, February 13, 2009 - 7:37 PM
                          "So even if she 'just let go' during the sessions that she had at the Hayashi clinic, she had that need and the strong desire for cure (or "healing," if you wish). "

                          I believe that one of the major flaws in new age thinking is this theory that "like attracts like". Nature does not work in this way. If you don't believe me, take two bar magnets and try to connect the negative poles. They repel one another with a force that is alarming. Why? Because nature loves balance - too much of the same thing is not balance.

                          In electricity, particles flow from an area of greater potential energy (PE) to an area of lesser potential energy until balance is achieved, then movement stops in that state of equilibirum. In Reiki, Ki flows from the source (greater PE) to the recipient (lesser PE).

                          Mrs. Takata had a need. The Universe flowed in to bring balance, through Reiki.

                          Where does positive thought - or any thought, for that matter - come in?

                          In particle physics experiments in the last century, physicists became suspicious that they were able to experimentally find so many particles that previously existed only in theory. They would postulate the conditions for these little theoretical parcels of energy-matter, then create those conditions in the lab. Voilé! The particles would wink into existence to be measured, right on schedule. So now the question became, "Would the particle have been there if we hadn't looked for it? Did it exist before we created the environment for it?"

                          I believe that our thoughts condition our experience. That is, thoughts help create the space for us to experience what we experience, good or bad. Like the conditions in a lab environment, our expectations-beliefs-thoughts create an environment where a desired (or its opposite!) outcome, such as good health, "could" potentially exist - an area of lesser potential energy. Nature, the universe, the source, an "area" of greater potential energy where that outcome already DOES exist, flows into the space created by our thoughts. The tricky bit is that source energy does not care if you create a space for a disaster... if the space is created, the energy will flow there.

                          So Tanemon's original question is along the lines of, what feedback have we had from clients about the efficacy of positive thoughts...

                          Maybe we can formulate our own little experiement, our own lab conditions, and see what shows up? Any thoughts about how we might turn this discussion into a white paper?

                          =)
                          • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                            Fri, February 13, 2009 - 10:57 PM
                            > "In electricity, particles flow from an area of greater potential energy (PE) to an area of lesser potential energy until
                            balance is achieved, then movement stops in that state of equilibirum. In Reiki, Ki flows from the source (greater PE)
                            to the recipient (lesser PE). "

                            I accept your basic premise. It is harmonious with theory of Qigong as developed from Ancient times in China.
                            It is consistent with modern physics. I have some qualms however. I don't think that Reiki, qi or prana are
                            necessarily physical phenomena anymore than thoughts are. So we have a potential problem applying
                            materialistic reasoning to intangible phenomena. Note I say *potential* problem. Even if it applies does it
                            cover the entire story? I'm not talking new age philosophy here. The Chinese classics state that energy follows
                            thought. They also speak of how phenomena moves from intangible to tangible i.e from thought to manifestation.
                            Classical Indian Buddhism: Vasubandhu, Aryadeva, Nagarjuna, Chandrakirti-- not lightweights in intellectual
                            history describe the mechanics of karma-- how cause of one type produces a similar type of result. I think
                            this could be compared to inertia in western physics.

                            On the other hand, I agree with Ken Wilbur, when he says that one of the biggest problems of using science
                            as a proof of spirituality is that science by its nature is continually disproving itself. So if we understand
                            something like Reiki in terms of contemporary quantum mechanics, and some other theory becomes
                            more accurate as a scientific model, then we're stuck with a faulty model.

                            So, Reiki as I understand it, functions consistent with thermodynamics. But Human healing like all Human
                            experience is a dependent phenomenon. The essential causal factor in intangible mental (or spiritual) coin
                            if you will. But I don't think that can be reduced to simple "think good thoughts" mechanics. Life seems
                            considerably more complex.
                            • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                              Sat, February 14, 2009 - 10:29 PM
                              Wow Mark, you make some great points!

                              "I don't think that Reiki, qi or prana are necessarily physical phenomena anymore than thoughts are. So we have a potential problem applying materialistic reasoning to intangible phenomena."

                              I guess I would counter that the physical and material realm may not be as tangible as we tend to think, nor that energy is as intangible as a thought. Or that thoughts are intangible... A rock has hado, vibration. A table is pure energy, molecules locked in the embrace of strong and weak nuclear forces. A memory of something traumatic can elicit the same physiological responses as the original event, even though the physical triggers are long since absent. Ask anyone who lives with PTSD.

                              "On the other hand, I agree with Ken Wilbur, when he says that one of the biggest problems of using science as a proof of spirituality is that science by its nature is continually disproving itself. So if we understand something like Reiki in terms of contemporary quantum mechanics, and some other theory becomes more accurate as a scientific model, then we're stuck with a faulty model. "

                              Which is why doctors and scientists are often seen with their fingers firmly planted in their ears while chanting LALALALALALALALALALA very loudly. You are right to be cautious about tying proof to a specific model. For me, this is not a way to prove Reiki, but is instead another avenue to try to understand it, perhaps explain it to others.

                              It's wrong of me, but I do love to know how things work, even elusive "intangible" things like Reiki. But I'm also glad that Reiki and things of that ilk remain inexplicable. I do so love a good mystery!
                              • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                                Sun, February 15, 2009 - 7:39 AM
                                > "It's wrong of me, but I do love to know how things work, even elusive "intangible" things like Reiki. But I'm also glad that Reiki and things of that ilk remain inexplicable. I do so love a good mystery!"

                                I don't think it's wrong at all. If fact, if you read much of my writing, you'll get the
                                impression that I read and think quite a lot! I think that reason is a very good
                                basis for understanding. Intuition alone might mislead, as might empricism
                                or reason. I think the best answers incorporate all three modes of knowledge.

                                I'm just as quick to tell my students that there is no "chakra system" or "meridian
                                system" any more than there is "the immune system!" You cannot find these.
                                There are different maps acoording to divergent method and purpose. These maps
                                often contradict each other. So I'm just as quick to say this isn't particle science...
                                because of the limits of the materialist model.

                                I do accept the karma model though-- not the new-agey one, but the classical
                                Buddhist one. Everything arises from cause, everything is a complex phenomenon,
                                made up of sub-units. The smallest subunit recognizable by human consciousness
                                is a "karma" i.e. a movement of mind 1/64th of a second in duration. In other words,
                                a precursor of a though or idea. Many many karmas make up what we call a thought
                                or emotion, a habit, a neurosis, etc. So since nothing arises without cause or reason,
                                they must have a similar character. A result opposite of cause would be irrational.
                                We may not be able to control karmas, but we can influence them by working with our thinking and habits, and thereby affect our perceptions and events of our lives.
                                • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                                  Sun, February 15, 2009 - 9:23 AM
                                  "I'm just as quick to tell my students that there is no "chakra system" or "meridian system" any more than there is "the immune system!" "

                                  I think it's great that you are teaching this way of thinking to your students! But for the sake of the discussion, I'll jump in with another perspective.

                                  Before I comment on chakras, I do want to say that Usui never taught anything about chakras. Japanese energetic anatomy is taught as the hara, the head or heaven energy center, and the heart. Three diamonds. That's it.

                                  That said, the chakra system is very much a part of the yogic and Ayurveda anatomical systems. And it is very interesting to note that there are major nerve ganglia that exit the spine and open up into the perceived location of each of the chakras.

                                  As for the meridian system, there is a Japanese researcher (Hiroshi Motoyama) that has coined what he terms Modern Meridian Theory. It is true that cadaver research has not revealed a "physical" location of the meridians of Chinese medicine. But what he is finding is that, after death, there are strands of hyaluronic acid molecules laid end to end through out the connective tissue of the body. Hyaluronic acid has the interesting property of drawing up to 1000 times its own weight in fluid to it and holding it there. It is a major component of joint fluids in the body. Motoyama's theory is that, instead of being like a blood vessel where the tissue is on the outside and the fluid flows within, or a nerve cell where the electrochemical current flows along the tissue, that the meridians are laid out in the system of the connective tissue.

                                  In his theory, the meridians are the strands of HA molecules linked end to end and enveloped in a tube of fluid held in place by the HA strands. These flows of fluid conduct the electrochemical responses throughout the body. We can't see them in cadavers though, because upon death, the fluid is released by the HA molecules and absorbed by connective tissue. One could even say that the system of connective tissue *is* the meridian system.

                                  Interesting theory, huh? I learned this from my yin yoga teacher, Paul Grilley. He has included this theory in his yin yoga DVD as well, because practicing yoga with a yin approach tends to target connective tissue and tends to impact several major meridians (liver, spleen, GB, stomach, kidney).
                                  • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                                    Sun, February 15, 2009 - 9:08 PM
                                    Indeed. Not scientist can find meridians or chakras,
                                    yet practitioners, if the believe in them can find them
                                    intuitively. Once found, they can be manipulated in
                                    various divergent ways for various divergent purposes.

                                    You know there's research at Harvard Med. where they
                                    stimulate classical acupuncture points. What happens is
                                    the brain regions for the organ activity traditionally ascribed
                                    to the point activates. It is not yet understood exactly how
                                    this happens. On the matter of Chakras, I think most people
                                    are familiar with the rainbow color sequence, but in the Tibetan
                                    tradition the color sequence is Green, Yellow, Blue, Red, and White.
                                    And there are very specific reason for this relative to what Buddhism
                                    generally does with these chakras, yet in more esoteric practices
                                    the red or blue gets moved o any number of places!

                                    So you see, its not that's it's there a priori. It's simply that you can
                                    visualize in specific ways and get specific results. Like astrology,
                                    the signs aren't out there, yet can be seen in the sky from earth.
                                    By looking through a particular model, you get a particular
                                    understanding and experience that you can manipulate according
                                    to that info. That's why I say, use only reason and you're limited by it,
                                    or intuition and empiricism might also lead astray if its the only model
                                    you use.
                          • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                            Fri, February 13, 2009 - 11:28 PM
                            I like where the discussion has been going. So please continue to reflect, and share here.

                            It occurs to me to say just a little something about where my question comes from. Several years ago, lacking a Reiki-share group in my area, I took to exchanging information with a group of other Reiki attunees on-line... we had each been attuned to Reiki II or III for anywhere from a few months to several years. We had been giving sessions and doing self-healing.

                            Although all of us agreed that the right way to provide sessions was to "just do it" for the highest good, and without thinking of results, we were well aware that results of a session or series of sessions can run the gamut between simply "warm 'n' fuzzy" (relaxing and enjoyable) at one end to astonishing in its unmistakable healing outcome at the other.

                            When regarding people we had worked with who had obvious need for healing (particularly physical healing) because they were dealing with some serious condition, the question arose for us "why do some people respond so markedly, and others not?" A couple of people made the point "my clients must take responsibility for their own healing." In other words, the Reiki-ist is a conduit for Reiki, or a healing facilitator, or however we wish to express it. But the individual RECEIVING the Reiki treatment is the one who does the healing.

                            Okay. But this leads to a further question: how DOES the recipient of Reiki healing session take responsibility for his/her own healing? What if the person tells you, with all apparent sincerity, that they are now (and have been for some time) eating well, getting plenty of rest, exercising, and that they don't smoke or drink anything more than a beer now and again?

                            Is this enough? Or is there something more?

                            What if they WANT to get at their core issues, but don't really know how? Etc.
                            • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                              Sat, February 14, 2009 - 7:54 AM
                              Well, you know, even Jesus asked people:
                              "Do you want to be healed?"
                              • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                                Sat, February 14, 2009 - 10:56 PM
                                "Well, you know, even Jesus asked people: "Do you want to be healed?" "

                                Illness can be very useful. A crutch, a mask, a reason. When my back problems were at their worst, I found myself using my pain as an excuse to avoid social engagements that I would not have enjoyed anyway. I'd use my pain instead of saying an honest "no thank you". Looking back, I am so grateful that I was able to see that and stop it from becoming a very bad habit.
                            • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                              Sat, February 14, 2009 - 10:49 PM
                              "Okay. But this leads to a further question: how DOES the recipient of Reiki healing session take responsibility for his/her own healing? What if the person tells you, with all apparent sincerity, that they are now (and have been for some time) eating well, getting plenty of rest, exercising, and that they don't smoke or drink anything more than a beer now and again?

                              Is this enough? Or is there something more?

                              What if they WANT to get at their core issues, but don't really know how? Etc. "

                              Well, Tanemon, when I have hit that wall of not knowing what to do, or how to understand something, that's when, for me, it has been the best time to back away from "trying" and striving too hard. And being willing to accept whatever is needed. That notion of radical acceptance of "what is", the "just this" of the situation, has been the key, in my life, to being able to move forward into real understanding and true healing. It is a Newton's second law kind of thing: the harder we push for understanding, the harder the lack of understanding pushes us back.

                              I believe that the answers come - but only after we are able to radically accept where we are in the now - whether it be with an illness or some other life challenge.

                              "Is this enough? Or is there something more?"

                              You know, we can be the healthiest, most fit people around, practice Reiki every day on ourselves, lead a totally stress-free life... but every now and then, we get the flu. Or maybe food poisoning. Or develop a more life-challenging illness. Illness is part of the journey of life.

                              My goal in practicing Reiki on others is to help them cope, to provide comfort, to support them in their healing process. If they don't "heal", that is not a negative reflection on Reiki, me, or the client. Maybe a physical healing in not what is most needed.

                              These are challenging questions. No easy answers.
                    • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                      Sun, February 8, 2009 - 10:53 AM
                      Tanemon asked: "Are you saying that there is one, and one only, intent that both client and Reiki-ist adopt in every session: to be open to the max for non-specific 'reception'?"

                      Yup. Sort of covers it all. This is based in not being attached to a specific outcome. And is a way of letting go of our (often misguided) notion that we know what is best for everyone involved at any particular moment in time.

                      It's a bit like the Zen fable about how everything in life can be interpreted as good or bad.

                      ********************************
                      Everything in life holds both a blessing and a curse. We deny this when we label the events of our lives as either good or bad. The following old Zen story illustrates this lesson most effectively.

                      A farmer had a horse but one day, the horse ran away and so the farmer and his son had to plow their fields themselves. Their neighbors said, "Oh, what bad luck that your horse ran away!" But the farmer replied, "Bad luck, good luck, who knows?"

                      The next week, the horse returned to the farm, bringing a herd of wild horses with him. "What wonderful luck!" cried the neighbors, but the farmer responded, "Good luck, bad luck, who knows?"

                      Then, the farmer's son was thrown as he tried to ride one of the wild horses, and he broke his leg. "Ah, such bad luck," sympathized the neighbors. Once again, the farmer responded, "Bad luck, good luck, who knows?"

                      A short time later, the ruler of the country recruited all young men to join his army for battle. The son, with his broken leg, was left at home. What good luck that your son was not forced into battle!" celebrated the neighbors. And the farmer remarked, "Good luck, bad luck, who knows?"
                      ****************************************

                      So, it is our good luck that Mrs. Takata went with a specific goal in mind. Otherwise, many of us in the west might never have known of Reiki. It is our bad luck that she felt we were too.... materialistic??? to grasp the deeper meaning of the practices, and so may have dumbed it down considerably for us.

                      Good luck or bad luck, who knows?

                      And my point would be this: We don't always know. Being open to be shown or given what is best for our own healing and growth, that seems to me to be profound wisdom.

                      And so I choose to practice as I have been taught. Not just because it is what I was taught. But because I have experienced its efficacy in my own life and in the treatment of others.
                    • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                      Sun, February 8, 2009 - 11:51 AM
                      Tanemon wrote:

                      "Here's why I ask about this. Among clients, I believe I could understand or sense quite a number of specific motivations for seeing any given session, but I believe I can say broadly speaking that they tend to fall into one of two large categories:

                      A. The motivation of people who just like a Reiki session from time to time because it makes them feel good, or has become part of their health & wellbeing routine, provides a non-specific boost, possibly is remembered as being an important part of something that lifted them out of a huge life slump at some point, etc.

                      B. The motivation of persons who maybe generally are in pretty good psychological and physical health, but have a very specific issue: "I get this pain in my thigh," or "I want to see what Reiki can do to reverse the onset of glaucoma," or "for some reason I've never been able to figure out (and neither has any counsellor I've been to) I get horriby depressed around the first of February every year"

                      Do you not feel this will influence (even in an unconscious and underlying way) the "intent" of the client? "

                      ********************************************

                      Are you saying that receiving what one needs is mutually exclusive with a specific intent?

                      ;-]
                      • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                        Sun, February 8, 2009 - 12:00 PM
                        Trishi wrote"
                        Are you saying that receiving what one needs is mutually exclusive with a specific intent? ;-]"


                        No, not saying that. Good point... and you made it in a fun way.
                        • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                          Sun, February 8, 2009 - 5:52 PM
                          We should mount a study and get published, don't you think?

                          =)
                          • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                            Sun, February 8, 2009 - 9:09 PM
                            Let's make money writing book about Reiki! <wink>
                            • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                              Wed, February 11, 2009 - 9:36 PM
                              Not sure what I could add, but hey, let's go for it!
                              • Re: Positive visualization and Reiki healing

                                Fri, February 20, 2009 - 10:27 AM
                                Thank you - to both of you, Mark & Trishi - for a good dsicussion. I have eight years oif experience with Reiki, and probably each of you has more than me. It is, unfortunately, kind of difficult to get a really good, in-depth discussion going on the Web on this kind of Reiki topic. In most forums I've participated in, people wind up 'breaking the tension' with jokes, because nobody feels experienced or confident enough to really pursue the issues.

                                We may not resolve all the questions, and maybe some just go beyond human understanding. But at least we've come to grips with them, and shared.

                                I'm saying this not to close the thread - though it might seem that way - but simply because I feel grateful. If anyone has more to add to the topic(s) at hand, please do post.

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