I'm hoping some of you can help me with this. Within the past year, I started following the Spiritualist faith (basically a religion, science & philosophy all rolled into one). Spiritualism, as defined by the National Spiritualist Association of Churches, "is the Science, Philosophy and Religion of continuous life, based upon the demonstrated fact of communication, by means of mediumship, with those who live in the Spirit World." Besides mediumship, Spiritualists also practice Spiritual Healing. Go to the following site for more information: www.nsac.org/healing/index.htm. Basically, they tap into Source energy & direct it into the recipient with the assistance of healing guides and/or Source itself. This healing modality can be done hands-on, at a distance or without use of an actual healing facilitator. The energy flows by way of prayer & intention. Sound familiar???
I have been practicing Reiki at the Master level for quite some time now but have yet to experience working with Spiritual Healing. To me & my rational mind, Reiki & Spiritual Healing sound virtually identical in every sense of the word. Even down to the Reiki symbols which are essentially a written/visualized form of prayer/intention. One major difference is that there is no attunement process with Spiritual Healing. It just "happens" with adequate spiritual development. The issue I'm having has to do with the claim that Spiritual Healing is more direct, concentrated, quicker & effective than Reiki. I've heard this repeatedly from two of my Spiritualist friends who are also both Reiki Masters (and married to each other, too). They also rarely practice Reiki anymore, saying that a 15 minute Spiritual Healing is equivalent to a 1 hour Reiki treatment. On the other hand, the Reiki Master I trained with (also a Spiritualist) continues to use Reiki & pass on attunements regularly while also being a Spiritual Healer.
Right now, I don't have enough experience with Spiritual Healing to make a valid standpoint. But I can't ignore all the correlations between Spiritual Healing & Reiki. I'm sort of in investigative mode...not putting all my weight one way or another...just looking for a little more insight. Any thoughts??? ~Namaste~ Joe
I have been practicing Reiki at the Master level for quite some time now but have yet to experience working with Spiritual Healing. To me & my rational mind, Reiki & Spiritual Healing sound virtually identical in every sense of the word. Even down to the Reiki symbols which are essentially a written/visualized form of prayer/intention. One major difference is that there is no attunement process with Spiritual Healing. It just "happens" with adequate spiritual development. The issue I'm having has to do with the claim that Spiritual Healing is more direct, concentrated, quicker & effective than Reiki. I've heard this repeatedly from two of my Spiritualist friends who are also both Reiki Masters (and married to each other, too). They also rarely practice Reiki anymore, saying that a 15 minute Spiritual Healing is equivalent to a 1 hour Reiki treatment. On the other hand, the Reiki Master I trained with (also a Spiritualist) continues to use Reiki & pass on attunements regularly while also being a Spiritual Healer.
Right now, I don't have enough experience with Spiritual Healing to make a valid standpoint. But I can't ignore all the correlations between Spiritual Healing & Reiki. I'm sort of in investigative mode...not putting all my weight one way or another...just looking for a little more insight. Any thoughts??? ~Namaste~ Joe
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Wed, October 11, 2006 - 2:33 AMHello I have been a practising reiki for 6yrs I teach now and have done for 2yrs now,my father does reiki and is up to master level and my mother teaches reiki too,I used to be confused as to what the diffrence is with all these diffrent practises of energetics,basically they are all the same they come from the same sorce,we are all able to heal,hear spirit ect if we choose too,my father is also a fantastic medium and my mother and I hear spirit too.It just depends on which system you choose,they all have the same goal to heal, it just depends on which you prefer,reiki is and has been taught as a self healing practise,spirits do not come into it not if you practise the traditional japanese style.I get so sick of hearing this is better and stronger than that, it is so childish,it depends on the person,when it all comes down to it if you work hard on your self clearing away the emotional debree we gather,and we work hard with meditation and with the energy ,then we become clearer channels ,then our healing work is stronger ,just like un blocking a pipe. for that is all that we are,if you are interested in mediumship then join a class,but when I give healing I feel all sorts goings on ,be it angelic ,spirit ect,the thing is when we give healing we let the energy go to were it needs to go without trying to direct or control the outcome,if they are beings there when we do healing just say thanks,they know why they are there,I always say to my clients to ask to recive whatever they need to recive at that time and moment,that is up to the universe and the client for they know were they need healing .I have a spiritual development group were people come to exercise there senses ,psychic abilities intuition, by giving readings to each other ,working with various tools.then the following week I have my reiki share,the two are very diffrent.Reiki is an energetic system the side affects of these exercises is that it opens up our senses,but that is not the aim,the aim is self healing,and becoming one with the universe and all .for when we are clean and shining with love inside it helps all others around us.You choose which system works with you ,do not let other people tell you this is better than that,it depends on which one feels better or sits right with you,I have meet many mediums who were good at what they done but when it came to the self,they needed to ground and heal,if you are grounded in the beggining it is the foundations of learning and growing ,again with any practise it is practise that helps us grow.
love light and laughter
shelly xxx
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Wed, October 11, 2006 - 4:00 AMI have trained in Spiritual Healing (SH) with the NFSH in the UK. This is an old and respected organisation, without denomination, whose patrons and supporters include Prince Charles. It is different to the Spiritualist Churches who also offer healing instruction and have brought many people into healing work.
By way of explanation, there are fundamental differences between Reiki and SH.
Reiki is an intiatory process, as introduced by Dr Hayashi, and with the Reiju Attunement introduced by Sensei Usui. Reiki is defined as a specific form of life force energy, the channel for which is opened and sealed with specific energies defined by mantra and yantra. These mantras and yantras are tools for personal growth as well as essential aspects of the initiation process. The Reiki symbols relate to ancient symbols from Tibet and India as well as the Japanese Kanji system and oral tradition which are based on mantra and yantra. Symbols and sounds are well known in healing work and intitiatory traditions. There are many of these specific energies which people feel as powerful healing forces in themselves (Om, Sri Yantra, Spiral, Star-Tetrahedron, Dodecahedron, Cross and Circle,....).
Reiki is a mystery school, with many specific teachings and processes, self-healing and meditations, manuals, hand positions, and with the potential for repeated attunements and classes, and accelerated growth towards enlightenment.
Reiki has the technique of placing the hands on a person and 'allowing' the energy to flow to where it is needed. It also has many other techniques which are clearly defined and available in manuals and books. Reiki is an extensive system which has been developed and expanded in Japan and other countries. There are pure Japanese lineages and groups and they have the original manuals of Usui and Hayashi as well as original symbols, teachings etc.
There are many people who learned Reiki via the Reiki Alliance, and other teachers, who said that if they trained with someone else then they 'didn't have Reiki anymore', or that teachers from other lineages were 'not proper teachers', etc. We know that these assertions were rarely true. We also know that many people who trained with Alliance lineages received inadequate teaching, very small manuals, only 3 levels to 'Master', no contact or information about Japan, denial about the extent of Reiki and its techniques, told that the only Usui lineage was the Alliance one, etc etc. Some of those poorly trained people have gone on to teach Reiki in its very diluted forms and the result is a kind of fragmentation of what is actually a full and evolving system. Various people have left Reiki in the belief that it is not complete and is not as good a healing system as various others (I have heard this many times). Many people have felt abused and exploited by the groups who went "for the money" (as Furumoto said), and told their students nonsense about burning the "secret symbols" and Sensei Usui as a "Christian Doctor" working with "beggars", etc etc. Furumoto even tried to copyright the term 'Reiki' in the UK (using expensive lawyers), and failed because of a concerted campaign by so many Reiki people here who object to megalomaniacs and egotists, with no connection to their roots, believing that they can control what is not theirs.
People who have received the Reiki attunements and have gone on to develop themselves in other systems, will continue to feel the benefit of their Reiki work and initiations, whatever they do. In that way, any judgement they have of Reiki as being somehow 'less' than what they are currently involved in, is mistaken. Their problem is not knowing enough and not studying with the groups who are doing so much to correct the dilutions and mistakes of the past.
Reiki has many techniques including: psychic surgery; healing attunements; Ki from the eyes and breath; at least 72 hand positions; mudras for healing and attunement; specific combinations of positions for specific conditions; movements, exercises and meditations; the teaching of the significance of yantra and mantra; specific techniques for layers of the aura, chakras, nadis, meridians; techniques which include massaging, tapping and stroking; work with crystals; colours and forms of Ki; as well as all the normally taught stuff with distant healing, scanning, beaming, self-healing, the 5 precepts, etc etc.. There is much more which can be learned through certain groups and lineages and all is part of the whole.
Spiritual Healing is a fine tradition of mainly auric healing. We were taught to use a 'feather touch' at certain positions which would, through specific prayers, invocations and guided meditations, guide the healing energy down through the body. This work was mostly to heal the 'spirit' of a person, in the knowledge that it is the spiritual layer of the aura where illness begins. Learning various well-tested guided meditations is vital for this work, and so the healer becomes a 'facilitator' of the life force and the receivers own innate self-healing ability. We were told not to place the hands directly on the body of the receiver, and had always to work with the same basic format of positions.
This way of healing is similar to Pranic Healing and Chi Healing, which often come through other disciplines such as Yoga and Chi Gung. These systems are based on the understanding of life force energy and how it can be guided, accumulated, circulated and empowered, through certain techniques and with invocations and setting of intention. You can learn a huge amount about this way with Master Mantak Chia, via his books and international classes.
I honestly believe that I learned valuable information during my SH courses, and recommend any person in Reiki to learn everything they can to become better healers. Ultimately you are doing Reiki for yourself and others, or just for yourself - and either is fine. I have met various people learning SH and Reiki only for animals and nature, and not for humans at all!
You can use any label you like as a healer, and some are more useful than others. Here we have the Reiki Federation which is attempting to unite all lineages, provides healer insurance and works to have Reiki approved as a healing system within CAM organisations, through evaluation and the setting of standards. This kind of work is vital if Reiki is to be used for Doctor referral schemes, hospital and hospice work, within education systems, and generally recognised as a complete system.
Some will say that Reiki is not necessary to heal, and of course they are right. Reiki is a choice, and is a life-path not just a healing system. Sensei Usui was very clear that Reiki is for "health and happiness" at the first 2 levels, and thereafter is to reach enlightenment. People who have problems with their Reiki path will be wise to learn more, just as the Japanese recommend, through a process of continous study and practice.
Reiki has never been a basic training in healing which somehow stops when you get to level 3, and it was not created to be learned in a few weekends. That kind of teaching is at the core of the problems in the 'Western' lineages.
So if you have the basic 3 levels, in the Hayashi/Takata system, try studying with other groups such as the teachings of Sensei Hiroshi Doi and the Japanese Reiki Oneness World Network, Jin Kei Do, Seichem/Karuna, Seichim, Sekhem, Raku Kei, and more. Perhaps visit Japan with one of the many groups going each year and connect with the roots of the system. Buy "The Spirit Of Reiki" by Petter, Rand and Lubeck, and learn what some of the wisest people in Reiki have to say. And consider study with Mantak Chia, in Shamanism, Metamorphic Technique, Shiatsu, Reflexology, Kinesiology, and any other energy healing systems. Without information there cannot be real choice.
I highly recommend ignoring people who suggest that one system of healing is better than another. All systems are part of the 'whole' which is 'healing' and leads to 'health'.
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Wed, October 11, 2006 - 9:46 AMI find that I generally agree with Psi, here.
We need to be very clear with our terminology, even where
there are striking similarities. What Reiki is and is not.
What Spiritualism is, and is not. Just because certain
pentecostals, for example, pray for folk and they bet better
doesn't mean that they are doing reiki.
I've said elsewhere that Reiki differs fundamentally from
faith healing since clearly animals, plants, etc are not
generating faith. (At least as far as we can know.)
Spiritualism is a religion founded on Spirit mediumship.
Its healing is the channeling healng of master healers
energies.
Reiki on the othe hand, is a sort of short cut to access
results from qi gong. As such it is not a religion, nor associated
with Spirit guides per se. However, Initiates of reiki do have
their intuition hightened and ma end up working with
spirit guides IN ADDITION to reiki. And there's nothing wrong
with that.
In genuine Spirituallism, and I grew up with the Universal Spiritualism
here in America, discernment is emphasized.
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Sun, October 15, 2006 - 9:11 PMMany thanks for the comments & input. I'll continue to keep an open mind. We're all students on the path & the progress will just keep unfolding.
Love & Light
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Mon, October 16, 2006 - 8:12 AMOh boy... do I even think about reading down?
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Mon, October 16, 2006 - 12:18 PMLOL love light and laughter shelly xx
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Mon, October 16, 2006 - 10:03 PMYears ago when I was more active in the Spiritualist Church, I used to serve as a church 'healer' - I had my reiki levels (I/II/III"a") and the minister would say "we're glad you're doing healing and we know you do REIKI and we do SPIRITUAL(IST) HEALING" and I would giggle to myself and continue on.
Of course, a position of privilege (and pressure) is to give the Minister a healing... and I was glad to offer hands/energy whenever the request came (or I felt to offer)...
After one healing, the Minister looked at me and said, "It isn't any different, is it?" and I said, "well, (minister), I never actually said it was!"
Yes, there are fundamental differences in how we learn and hold the systems and how we come to them, but to my mind, it's all very very close... My Spiritual(ist) development (aka mediumship) comes through healing - I was led to the Spiritualist church through Reiki - when I practise Reiki, sometimes I make mediumistic contact... I don't make (big) separations unless I'm needing to teach or explain one from th'other...
reikily
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Tue, October 17, 2006 - 1:49 AMwell walter I dont think it could be put any better,this is what I think also,thank you,for the simplistic anwser,many blessings shelly xxx -
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Tue, October 17, 2006 - 3:20 AMApologies if I repeat myself. I feel that I must draw a clear distinction here.
As I said, Reiki is healing and so is Spiritual Healing (SH). The primary goal is healing, but the ultimate goal of these systems are different.
It is vital that students are not taught that these two systems are the same. To do so will be a great disservice to all who practice Reiki and who have worked for many years to help unite and enlighten within the Reiki systems.
Reiki is initiatory; SH is not. Reiki is based upon specific mantras and yantras; SH is not. Reiki is from Buddhist and Shamanistic traditions; SH is not. Reiki has many specific techniques for meditations, healing, self-empowerment, exercises, distance work, initiation, etc: SH does not. Reiki has a wide range of specific hand positions for healing specific conditions; SH does not.
Reiki is originally a system for reaching enlightenment and involves training in many ways of healing, knowledge of many systems, wider knowledge of life and the universe.
Please do not give anyone the impression that Reiki is so simple. Many people have left Reiki because they received inadequate information and believed Reiki to be nothing more that what can be learned in a few weekends, and consists of putting hands on a body and "let the energy flow". That is only One of the many techniques in Reiki. If you believe Reiki to be so simple it is because you have not studied enough and are not aware of the original systems and Japanese schools.
I stopped my involvement with the SH system because I soon realised that Reiki is a very full and expanding system which will take me (and anyone else) many years to learn properly, even at basic levels.
Dr Hayashi's full manual has been published and is available. It was the result of colaborations between Tadao Yamaguchi (Jikiden Reiki) and Frank Arjava Petter. Buy it and the Usui manual and see what I am saying. Buy Hiroshi Doi's book and the other Frank Arjava Petter books. There is a great deal to be learned.
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Wed, October 18, 2006 - 10:48 PMActually, I was at the 1999 workshop where Hiroshi Doi was first presented 'to the west'.
as I tried to say, yes, both systems are compleat in and of themselves, and the practitioners DO hold them quite separately and should make all the appropriate distinctions when teaching one system or another...
However, my practise of Reiki has (in fact) become even more simplified since working with Doi Sensei - my first teacher taught us that Reiki is a spiritual path - that becoming the energy, which becomes us, which becomes the energy - there is no separation...
I am quite uninterested in all of the pissing on each other: "My Reiki is better than yours" "I can be more Japanese than you" that seems to be the rage now...
I have ended up as one of the main collectors of Reiki Books - my booklist at Threshold.ca is outdated currently - but I do own (and have read for review purposes) most of the published books on Reiki. I have even studied a few...
The 'ends' of the spectrum, if you will, hold Reiki as a "Science" or as an "Art" - I've always lived in the energetic side of the art.
reikily
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Thu, October 19, 2006 - 4:53 PMShalom! Shazam! Gad ZUKES! I agree!
Word games get boring and I think only of those silly birds that fluff their feathers up so big as to appear bigger than the other male birds and more impressive to their potential mates.
Scott
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Thu, October 19, 2006 - 4:51 PMI mostly agree with the Reiki is difficult not easy aspect of this saying BUT in the sense that you later mention. (Yes yes there are specific practices and hand positions, technique... and all these things make the system beautiful Geduko Ho, yes. yes.). BEYOND that, it has made many other practices easy like manefestation through ritual, empowering talismans, herbs and foods for specific intents. Say using olive and rosemarry as a goddess incense and charging that incense with the Reiki, with your intent to resonate that energy to those plant / planetary and mythological figure energies.
In the bigger picture what Reiki really did for me was unlock a seeming endless well of every expanding energy currents that I have been able to access in all aspects of my life. This font of energy, of awareness connected to the Life Force Energy / Source, in turn has expanded the idea of what healing is...well beyond what the Tradition of Reiki taught me.
If someone (then as an example) were to take Reiki in a Spiritual Healing Circle, at least from my perspective, the Reiki would definately empower that SH work. It would not NOT be Reiki but it wouldn't just be Spiritual Healing. The tradition may be a part of accessing Reiki (the energy) but it is not the energy... wouldn't that fall under a different form of Life Force Energy, like that <life force energy> that is present and generated in the interaction between peoples? Makes one wonder.
I may apply a method, meditate on a symbol or breathe and use hand positions as directed by the tradition but I really REALLY must stress that most of the time the greater healing has occured when I am at one with the flow and not even thinking about hand positions, things like "is this Reiki" or "is this whatever".
I will be a broken record in saying this sometimes heavy word games of "well what you REALLY mean to say is" and "What I actually mean was" is a big turn off sometimes.
Rather than experts lets have experiments.
Rather than referring to the past tradition, lets found new methods. As a future person in the present I am more for this. There are many things that are ancient that serve no purpose other than to be a tired old thing that we improved a hundred times over. Sometimes the newer things, the future things, the recently discovered and implemented idea is the better beacon to follow.
Scott
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Tue, October 17, 2006 - 6:15 AMlol..I like how you signed off..
Reikily
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Tue, October 17, 2006 - 9:22 AMWe are talking about the energy not the system,of course the systems are not the same.I have been taught reiki ryoho by frans stiene,I also teach the same system,mikao was taught a few systems himself,shintoism which is shamanic in origin,aiki jutsu which works with energy too and is part of samurai,shugendo which are mountain spiritual men who also worked with energy ,spirit and divination ,people would come to these men for advise and healing.Then mikao made his system reiki from all of these influences,a self disipline system that anybody can use to heal the self and in a deeper form ,lead to enlightenment,as we are never finished learning.But the energy that we work with is the same no matter what system we choose.,if we wish to work with another system and practise reiki too this is ok,but we always say which is the system of reiki and which is the other,no way is better than the other it is personal choice.I think the lady knows what reiki is that asked the question,she just wanted to know what the diffrence was.
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Re: Reiki with Spiritual Healing
Thu, October 19, 2006 - 4:20 PMAs I made clear, I always advocate learning as much as one can to be a good healer.
I have never used the word "better' to describe Reiki or Spiritual Healing, or any other system. I really do believe that Reiki compliments all other systems, precisely because it is initiatory and so has a very particular and special quality. I have had clairvoyants acknowledge their Reiki 1 attunement as a very special event in their life, one which gave them a deeper connection to their body and into the Earth. I have met various people involved in other systems, and some of the most notable were people in Shiatsu who felt a need for something more and found it in the complimentary nature of Reiki. Others in massage, reflexology, kinesiology, psychotherapy (to name a few examples) have commented on the truly complimentary nature of Reiki.
I am not elitist or exclusive and only wish for greater realisation and sharing. I will continue to seek to raise awareness about the expansive and inclusive nature of Reiki, for the greater good of all involved.
I give thanks to the additions from Dr Hayashi, to the already extensive teachings of Mikao Usui, and to the hard work of so many people to bring awareness of energy healing to the modern world.
It can be said that the whole world is in need of 'Spiritual' healing right now. The human race cannot evolve without the Spiritual aspect, just as we cannot survive without taking care of our temple of the soul, our centre of radiating love, and our centre of consciousness. These four aspects make up the 'pyramid' of true being.
In Oneness
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Re: Reiki with Spiritual Healing
Thu, October 19, 2006 - 6:07 PMI have been thinking about this, you always get "me thinking" in your assertations. I do not believe that there are four aspects to the pyramid of the true human being because spirit is an element that is both manifest in all of the four (basic) elements and also a combination of the four elements to make/manifest a fifth. (I'm also going against my word comment earlier)...
Anyway, is it possible then that the imbalances of making spirit an element in the world, rather than human beings finding spirit in their elements is part of the problem? Spirit isn't generated by itself, matter is not lesser, they are both simultaneous manifestations of themselves arising from their individual spheres of experience.
You've gotten my being going in and out.... I'm thinking deep.
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Re: Reiki with Spiritual Healing
Sat, October 21, 2006 - 10:09 AMThe pyramid model was taught to me by a Mayan. He spoke about this as a symbol of the development of a whole human being and used the pyramid as a model of humans in meditation. He said this was a specific reason for the pyramidal form. It is a big subject and very profound.
I agree that Spirit permeates other elements. I only used the above as a symbolic reference.
Perhaps the five-sided pyramids on Mars are the true way to represent the reality?
Which reminds me of the experience of Michael Smith in 'Stranger in a Strange Land'. More about initiations into levels of consciousness, healing, etc.
Namaste
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
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Re: Reiki vs Spiritual Healing
Tue, October 31, 2006 - 10:27 AMTHe only differences are what each of us thinks are differences.
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